Why Hong Kongers Hate Being Called Chinese

When you ask Hong Kongers where are they from, you will get a very typical answer of “I’m from Hong Kong”. You barely hear them say “I’m a Chinese”. Even though Hong Kong has been returned to the sovereignty of China for almost 14 years, Hong Kong people still consider themselves separately from Chinese regarding language, culture and living standard. Why don’t Hong Kongers think of themselves as Chinese? What’s wrong with being a Chinese for them?

Different Languages Used
Imagine, Cantonese is harder to learn than Mandarin (9 tones in Cantonese vs. 4 tones in Mandarin) and less people speak Cantonese than Mandarin, so Hong Kong people think Cantonese is a more exclusive and prestigious language and it creates some kind of language pride to Hong Kong-ese because they’re speaking their “own” language. (Although Guangdong people also speak Cantonese)

Hong Kong was much Richer than China
Hong Kong is a capitalist economy while China is a (partially) socialist one. The economic system had made Hong Kong economically more affluent than China in the old days. Hong Kong was doing well at making clothing, watches and jewellery in the 1960′s-1980′s, though the main economic sectors have been switched to retail, banking and real estate after because of the rising wages and rents in factories. Hong Kong people’s higher income and living standard created their mentality of being more high-status than “Chinese”.

Hong Kong is still continuously using the old law and tax systems as it was when being a British colony, which are different from what China is using. Hong Kong people also think that their economic and political systems are one that is more “civilized” as there are less corruptions and black-market transactions. Hong Kong’s being less corrupted and more transparent has also made Hong Kong people to think that they’re more superior.

Hong Kong People Had Whiter Skin
Don’t laugh, they do think it’s important. White skin represents being more rich in the Greater China (and also Asia) because people with whiter skin don’t need to work outdoor and do physical work where they would expose themselves under the sun. As China was still an agriculture-based economy before, people in rural provinces usually worked in a field and got tanned easily.While in Hong Kong, people usually worked in a factory (in the old days) or office with little exposure to the sun so people in Hong Kong had white skin.

However, tanned skin is getting more popular these days (although white skin is still a predominant measure of beauty and wealthiness) and Chinese people are getting less and less exposed to the sun. Hence, this reason is getting less important in contributing to Hong Kong people’s unwillingness to consider themselves as Chinese.

Fear of Change: Self-identity Crisis before 1997
Before the important year 1997 – where Hong Kong’s sovereignty was returned to China – approached, many Hong Kong people started to migrate to other countries like Canada, Australia, the United States and New Zealand before of the fear of a chaos created by the big political change. During that time they always questioned about their identity, but the more they doubted about it, the more they reckoned themselves as a Hong Kongese because Hong Kong was still much more wealthy than Mainland China which was still developing at that time. The fear of change and the pride of their own economic development only reaffirm Hong Kong people’s identity as being a “Hong Kongese” but not Chinese.

How About Now? China is Doing Good!
Nowadays, Hong Kong people still regard themselves separately from China. But, interestingly, a lot of surveys found that Hong Kong people would be more willing to say they’re Chinese when China performs well in its international image. For example, around the time of the Beijing Olympics Games in 2008, more Hong Kong people were willing to say they are Chinese. But when China was having troubles in issues like food hygiene and human-rights, Hong Kong people wouldn’t say they’re Chinese.

In essence, Hong Kong people’s self-identity is based on the mutual benefits and influence between Hong Kong and China. When China is having good reputations, they don’t mind being a “Chinese”, otherwise they stick to their old “Hong Kong-ese” pride.

Now, more people are learning Mandarin and migrating to China for opportunities, Hong Kong will be likely to greatly benefit from this change. Would Hong Kong people become more willing to regard themselves as a Chinese? It’s still a question.

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  1. 香港人主体是广东人,查旧一点的各省智商,特别是儿童的,岭南三省都是榜末,只是过去一二十年多了外地人到广东闯,帮助拉高了平均。老话说人离乡贱,但外地人其实是较容易在广东站稳脚跟的,特别是与北京上海比,主要原因是外地人的基因素质比广东人优秀,深圳就是个好例子,虽是广东的地方,但却是北方文化当道,说广东话的还被看不起。作为一个国际城市金融中心,香港的IQ才107,而上海有112,浙江包括城乡也有110,北京的数据暂时找不到但肯定至少110以上,那可是千年帝都各路精英聚集的地。若是亚洲大城市排名,香港肯定前十都进不了,那样的智商在中国大概也就二三线城市的水平。城市之间平均智商相差5那竞争力肯定不在同一层次了,所以香港真不适合作金融中心,连乡下人的智商都不如还怎么去和别国的精英斗智斗勇?不说远的,就看那个两罐奶粉的法例,那可是拿着几百万年薪的高官焦头烂额拍出来的,结果里里外外招的那个骂和烦。

      广东人的智商长相身高明显比五岭以北的逊色是因为气候和地理隔阂导致人口基因库进化慢。人天性崇智尚美,进化方向应该是更美更智慧。外因例如政策倾斜地缘优势先进文明的影响和运气等是可以一时半两帮助提升竞争力,但真正可持续的高竞争力还是要靠本身人口素质的优秀这样的内因,这种优秀其实不用深究,从外貌长相就可以看出,相由心生,这心说的就是智慧。国外已有科学研究指出长相和智能有正关联,但这类研究主要通过问卷统计进行,难以精确论述且样本大耗钱耗时间,还要面对很多政治压力所以进展慢。有出差到深圳香港的外国人问过我们为什么只隔了一个海关,深圳人长得和香港人不太一样,深圳的不但年轻人较多,还较好看。所以再给些时间,深圳的后来居上应该不是问题,过去三十年的GDP一直是越来越贴近香港,五年前是香港的1/2,去年已达2/3。

      落后还反映在粤语的不悦耳,可以比较广东人说普通话与日本人棒子说普通话所带的背景口音,除去生涩感,我个人觉得广东腔更难听,问过不少人也有同感。口音形成于人文环境,反映一个地方的人文审美水平。

      不少高考状元去了香港一段时间就后悔了,其中一个原因是发现香港本地学生水平,,,,,,

  2. 先秦时期,百粤民族(亦即与所谓马来人同源的一个民族)遍布中国南方,秦始皇征服岭南以后,岭南作为中国大地的一片边陲,是中原人流放、逃难地,中原人与百粤人民同居混血,便形成了外貌特征带有较重马来人种特征的两广人.
      
    《魏书》就形容广东人“鸟声禽呼,言语不同,猴蛇鱼鳖,嗜欲皆异”
      
    从秦汉开始,就一直是流放罪犯的地方, 成了贱民、罪民的渊薮。

    对个人来说,出身或许可以不重要,obama都当上美国总统还二任了,但对一个群体,出身就绝对有比较价值。远的比较北欧和南欧,日耳曼血统为主体的北欧的社会保障应该是地球上最好没有之一;拉丁血统的南欧正在全民欠债。再比较同一个体制内的美国普通白人社区的安逸和黑人社区的slum。近的可以看日本和菲律宾,都是亚洲政体西化最早的岛国,面积人口密度相近,据说二次大战后菲律宾还曾经是亚洲仅次于日本的强国,但现在人均GDP与日本相差好像20倍?日本出口高端电玩,菲律宾靠出口大学生给人洗厕所养国养家。再比较大英帝国曾经遍布全球的殖民地(英国子民自己建立的美加澳除外),好像只有新加坡香港弄出了点名堂?又碰巧都是南下华人为主的社会。东南亚国家的华人是少数民族,在各种排华政策下却掌控了这些国家的经济命脉。马来西亚就是因为害怕华人以经济为后盾分享过多政治权利而宁可将新加坡逐出马来西亚联邦的。再回看中国,得中原者得天下,自古只有北方的游牧民族对中原有真正的威胁,并在过去一千年有近半的时间入主过中原(蒙100多年? 满300年)。满族人口2000年的统计才一千万,不到全国人口的1%,不知道几百年前是什么比例,但肯定也是极小的,但这么小众的民族却能够突破长城并统领了华夏大地三个世纪,而且他们的文明史远比汉人短,没有自己的文字前还曾借用汉字,虽然最后还是被强韧的汉文化同化,但满人对汉文化的影响是从上而下劈头盖脸的强势,例如马挂旗袍还有带着满语语音的京腔成了现代汉语的语音标准。广东人爱拿这yy普通话,按我说你有本事也去影响中原试试,有那本事秦始王就早在南边也建长城了,而不是尽发配些老弱残兵和罪犯去殖民岭南。

      有了这些比较,我认为出身绝对重要,而出身与生存环境的磨练是分不开的,一方水土一方人。假如香港人的出身换成大部分是源自岭南以北,香港的曾经辉煌肯定更耀眼。海外华人多是广东人并非因为广东人素质优秀,正相反,农耕社会依恋土地不喜迁徙,若非混不下去不会轻易冒险外求发展。十九世纪从广东开始的移民潮其实就是一批在中国被淘汰的底层人力资源的输出。那些海外成功例子可以解读为绝处逢生否极泰来,只是靠地产投机倒卖起家与靠文化科技扬名肯定不是同一档次。

    沐浴过西方文明的香港人特别热衷于指责中国许多的落后不文明,这并没有错,值得鼓励,乐意不乐意,现在就是西方文明当道,但中国是个有厚重历史的大国,绝对经得起批评,不管善意恶意,有批评才会反省不足以求进步,但相信香港人很明白中国进步对香港的意义就是挤压的加速,被松绑了的13亿人口所释放出的张力之给力,蜗居于弹丸之地的香港人一定早已深有体会,喜不喜欢都好,挤压才刚开始,就算从奶粉开始吧。其实全世界都应该感激中国曾经的闭关锁国,有了这个大背景才让不少国家地区的生产力轻松换取到超值的资源,提早进入发达队伍。两百年前拿破仑读过孙子兵法后说过中国是沉睡中的巨人: “let her sleep for when she awakes the world will shake. ” 喜不喜欢都好,the world is shaking now.

      以人类的祖先同是猴子来否定族群有优劣之分,那等同否定进化的意义。假如不同的选择不同生存环境的磨练把我们都塑造成没有价值差别的人,那自强不息的教诲就是废话。

    改革开放,表面看广东先发展了,但真正的赢家是北方人,北方人在过去三十年比历史上任何时候都更快地抢占广东的资源和淘汰广东人,不说别的,就看以北方口音为标准的普通话的普及速度,许多在广州长大的小孩甚至以说广东话等同低俗没文化,可以想象广东话在未来栋梁心中的地位,对广东人说长得不象广东人还成了变相的恭维。以北方文化为主的深圳才30年历史,但早就不把有2000城镇史的省府广州放眼里。现在且看香港怎么招架,抗争肯定有,但广东人被北方人淘汰是物竞天择的结果,要怪就怪温暖少变的气候。人心向往进步,落后不美就会被歧视被淘汰,自然规律。

  3. 越接近赤道方言语种越多,温带地区则多往大同方向发展,并在大同的进化过程中使语言的内涵更丰富更有逻辑,语音更顺耳或说更符合听觉美感。四季分明的气候丰富我们的感官和想象,自然繁衍出更丰富的词汇和表达,丰富后自然带来审美的提高,就象一个人多了见识,分辨判断能力提高,审美水平也会提高。

      欧洲的几个大国在二十世纪工业革命后城市化过程中也有过通过行政方式进行语音标准化,法国德国的官方语都是以北方口音为标准。

      美国几百年的历史也已经发展出明显的北方南方口音,南方的很土,这美国人自己说的。

    • 在事實面前,用血統論歪曲?
      血統論 – 中國人的最後一塊遮羞布

      極度的嫉妒會產生憎恨
        注:中國對日本人,香港人和台灣人

        

      HDI, Human Development Factor 人類發展指數(越高越好)
      香港0.898
      台灣0.882
      中國0.687

      人均GDP, GDP per person
      香港34049美元/年
      台灣21900美元/年
      上海城12783美元/年

      CPI貪污感知指數, Corruption Perception Index(越高越好)
      香港8.4
      台灣6.1
      中國3.6

      PFI新聞自由指數2011 , Press Freedom Index(越低越好)
      香港17.0
      台灣13.0
      中國136.0

      A country without Google, Facebook,Twitter & YouTube is the next superpower? You must be kidding

        一個沒有 Google, Facebook,Twitter & YouTube 是個新的超級大國?
        笑死我

      We arenot be better, but we are just different

      主要的核心價值觀:
      自由,人權,法治,廉政公署
      (你永遠不會有)

      HK’s Core values
      Freedom, Human Rights, Rule of Law, Zero tolerence for corruption

      其他:
      環保,無污染,教育,湛藍的天空,
      渠務(下雨不會使香港成為威尼斯),郊野公園,交通
      (你也不會有)

      Others
      Environmental Protection (50% of HK’s land are country parks), Education (3 out of of Asia’s top 5 Universities are in HK, QS Asia rankings), Blue skies (this is absent in China)
      Sewage system (Shanghai and Beijing becomes Venice after a heavy downpour)

      而公共美德與紀律(你沒有)
      (你一定是在做夢 !)

      Public virtue and discipline
      (We don’t spit, urinate in public places like a common animal. We actually queue up and waitwait in the line)

      Chinese or at least their govt, doesn’t care (or are unable to) about these things

      • 香港寄生于中国

          中国有一句话:「靠山吃山,靠水吃水」。

          那么香港靠什么呢?

          答案是:香港靠海,吃的自然是水。香港在割让给英国以前是一个小渔村,居民以捕鱼为生。捕鱼能致富吗?当然不能。不过那时候的香港人虽苦,过得是自食其力的正常生活。

          英国占领香港後把香港建设成英国对中国的转口港,香港这就发达了。这时候香港人吃的是什麽?是中国辛勤创造的财富,不再是香港附近水中的鱼。换句话说,香港人是寄生在中国的一群人,本身并没有什麽生产力,生活虽好并不踏实。

          香港经济真正的腾飞起於中国的改革开放。

          让我们用数字来说话。香港的恒生指数1978年以前接近500点,1998年达到18000点,20年内翻了40倍。没有中国大陆改革开放後巨大的需求和西方国家在转口贸易的操纵,香港经济是不可能腾飞的。

          事实是,香港人优裕的生活是建筑在香港成为西方世界在中国的桥头堡上。这是西方人的骄傲,香蕉华人的光荣,中国人的耻辱。

          香港对中国经济的伤害

          香港回归后不久,网上就出现很多文章批评中央向香港输送利益的「一国两制」对中国的经济造成了非常大的伤害。大陆作家赵海均还写了一本书,名叫【经济中国】, 节录几个重点。

          这本书的论述以2002年的香港经济做例子来分析。

          1.香港全年的GNP为12700亿港元,中国大陆支付香港的转口中间费大约是3000亿港元。

          2.中国大陆向香港输送廉价的淡水资源、电力资源、油气资源、食物蔬菜等估计每年达到 3000-4000亿港元,但是香港不向中央缴纳一分钱的税。

          3.香港独立的司法体系、货币政策和市场机制不利于国家的宏观调控和政策监管,使中国政府蒙受巨大的经济损失。其中内外勾结、行贿收贿、偷税、漏税、走私、逃汇、骗汇、洗钱等不法活动非常猖獗,国家的财政损失每年高达数千亿。

          4.香港的假外资偷税、逃税、套汇、洗钱侵蚀中国的经济。国内某些暴富的人把财富转移到境外合法化,然后摇身一变成“洋人”回来大陆投资,享受外资待遇。根据统计珠江三角洲地区70%的外资直接来自香港,这其中有多少假外资,没有人知道。但是人所周知,偷税、逃税、套汇的活动非常普遍。

          5.香港的金融制度和游戏规则非常腐败,是为了保护香港几个财团的利益而设计的。譬如供股、批股、合股、拆股的制度规则,有利于第一大股东掏空上市公司、掏空中小股东。

          6.中国的国营大中型企业去香港上市支付的中介费用(律师费、上市费、财务顾问费、评估费等)高达 10%-15%,经常令股价跌破淨资产、跌破发行价,在严重丧失筹资功能的同时,每年还进行年息 3-5%的派息和缴纳上市费用。国有资产在香港遭受严重的流失和掏空,中国广大纳税人几十年的财富拱手送给了外国人。

          香港用百分之百的服务业养活 700万素质不佳的人口,而且是高收入人口。全世界找不到第二个例子。

          目前的香港人还在做梦,做坐在办公室、吹冷气、领高薪、请菲佣的梦,做会说英语骑在大陆人头上的梦,还有做跟西方世界有特殊“历史交情”的梦。

          这些幻梦没有一个不令人发笑。

          香港人二鬼子的梦早就该醒了。商业竞争是无情的,是纯粹追逐利润的游戏,没有生产能力、远离生产基地、坐领高薪的香港人在这场游戏中必败无疑。大陆早就该修理香港这个赔钱货。

          香港人必须面对残酷的事实:没有竞争的能力就没有饭吃,北京政府的补贴总有一天会走到头的。

          与中国大陆接岸经济上依赖大陆的小岛,只因曾经割让给西方强国,岛民都有二鬼子和买办的心态(借用西方的优势赚大陆的钱),更可恶的是,还最爱唱衰大陆,看不得大陆好,希望大陆永远落后西方。

          大陆必须从香港的回归学到教训,认识到自己富裕最重要,要使自己变成别人羡慕的有钱人,而不是做烂好人。想想看,大陆人在香港受到的歧视还不够多吗?为什麽?说白了,就是因为大陆人穷。香港人第一尊敬的是说英语的,他们是殖民主子;第二尊敬的是说美语的,他们是有钱有势的大爷;第三是其他洋人;第四是说广东话的;最看不起的就是说普通话的大陆人,因为他们最穷。

          嫌贫爱富是人的本性,中国大陆正确的做法是全力发展自己,就是邓老爷子说的:「发展才是硬道理」。大陆只需要对外维持公平的原则,不必对香港有任何特殊照顾。大陆本身的优越,特别是财富上的优越地位,才是吸引香港的磁石。大陆要提高自己的生活水平,停止对香港的优惠,一切以自己长期的经济利益为考量。

          生活水平低的大陆向生活水平高的香港输血特别容易令对方心理不平衡,产生否认、抗拒、蔑视对方、夸耀自己等等反表现来维持他们虚假的自尊与优越感。

          所以北京政府要学着点,在自己还被认为是落后的穷人的时候,大陆对香港的任何输血都是下下之策,只会产生更多的白眼狼。

          大陆用大量输血来维持香港的繁荣是最愚蠢的政策,绝不可能获得香港人的政治回报。

          中国必须记住:一个比欧洲和日本贫穷的中国无论如何节衣缩食供养香港只能遭到更大的鄙视,绝不可能赢得香港人的感谢和尊敬。讲得更白一点,贫富是比较,不是绝对的。大陆要使港人人心归顺,手段不在使自己有多富有,而在使港人比大陆人更穷。这是人性的现实,不会改变的。

  4. 北方人居住在四季分明的地区,所以神经感觉比较敏感,脑容量较大。

    以下的血统论来自你们的老东家:

      “英国教授称东亚人智商全球最高 平均值为105

      在 收集研究了130个国家的智商测试后,最近,英国一位研究人种智商的学者得出了一个令亚洲人感到既惊讶又高兴的结论。他的研究结论是:中国人、日本人、朝 鲜人是全世界最聪明的人,他们拥有全世界最高的智商,平均值为105,明显高于欧洲人和其他的人种。得出这一结论的专家是英国阿尔斯特大学名誉教授理查 德·林恩。他的这一结论是否可信?又是如何得出的?几天前,本报记者通过电子邮件对理查德·林恩教授进行了独家采访。

      经过近30年和对130个国家的IQ测试,林恩教授得到不同地区人种智商的排名。

      林 恩教授1977年开始进入人种智商这一领域的研究。他在信中说道,上世纪70年代,他注意到了日本的飞速发展,作为智商研究专家,他马上想到,日本能够有 如此快的发展是否因为他们有较高的智商?于是,他开始了对日本人的智商测试调查。他发现,日本人的人均智商达到了105。得出这个结论后,他又猜想,中国 人是否也应该拥有同样高的智商?调查测试的结果显示,他的想法是对的,中国人的平均智商也达到了105。

      中国、日本都属于蒙古人种,地域又很接近,于是,林恩教授开始了对人种智商差异的研究。在收集研究了130个国家的智商测试后,林恩教授总结出了不同地区人种智商的差异排位以及原因。

      东 亚人(包括中国人、日本人、朝鲜人)拥有全世界最高的平均智商,平均值为105。而之后排位是欧洲人(100),爱斯基摩人(91),东南亚人(87), 美洲本土印第安人(87),太平洋诸岛土著居民(85),南亚及北非人(84),撒哈拉非洲人(67),澳大利亚原著民(62)。而人种智商最低地区是南 非沙漠高原的丛林人和刚果雨林地区的俾格米人,平均智商为54。

      林恩的这一研究遭到了西方社会的批评。他说,因为在西方有一个观点:所有人种的智商都是一样的,研究人种智商的差异被认为是种族歧视。

      通过研究,林恩认为,是恶劣的生存环境造就了高智商的人种。

      林 恩教授对造成这一结论的原因也进行了研究。他认为,造成人种智商差异的原因是生存环境和基因。林恩教授首先注意到了加州大学研究脑量进化的专家杰里森的观 点:在物种进化的过程中,物种的智力进化受到了环境的重要影响,也是物竞天择的一个重要因素。动物们要想在恶劣的环境中成为幸存者,必须进化出足够大的脑 容量,这样它们通过视觉、听觉和嗅觉得到的信息才能在大脑中进行充分的分析。

      林恩教授认为,这一理论同样可以用到人类的进化中。在对诸多 的数据分析后,林恩教授得出,寒冷的气候让人类得到了更大的脑容量。比如东亚人的平均脑容量为1416cc,欧洲人的脑容量为1367cc,而撒哈拉地区 的非洲人脑容量为1282cc。林恩教授称,寒冷的气候让早期的人类必须学会如何御寒。在寸草不生,动物也很少出没的冬季,寻找食物努力生存下去使得这些 地区的人类获得越来越高的智商,以求不被大自然淘汰。

      既然东亚人的智商最高,为什么西方人的发明创造更胜东方人?

      当林恩 教授提出他的研究后,很多人提出了质疑。第一点就是虽然东亚人拥有高于欧洲及美国人的智商,但欧洲人在科学技术研究上要比东亚人更胜一筹,发明也更多。林 恩教授认为这是由于东亚人在性格上比欧洲人更循规蹈矩,所以在发明创造上受到了一定的影响,但这并不能证明东亚人的智商低于欧洲人。

      林恩教授还提出,聪明的东亚人现在遍布了世界各地,包括新加坡、马来西亚、夏威夷、北美地区。而他们在各个科学领域的参与和成绩也越来越突出。

      爱斯基摩人生活在冰天雪地中,却为什么没有最高的智商?

      欧洲一些学者对林恩教授的结论的另一个质疑是,既然寒冷的气候让人类进化出最大的脑容量,并获得高智商,为什么生活在冰天雪地中的爱斯基摩人却是个例外。

      这一点,林恩教授用基因突变解释这个问题。林恩教授说,在早期非洲直立人向世界各地移民进化的过程中,他们带着能够进化出高智商和低智商的基因。而这种基因在人口发展快、人口多的地区得到进化的机会就更多。在寒冷的季节,低智商的人类逐渐被淘汰,而高智商的成为幸存者。

      爱斯基摩人的人口稀少,控制智商的基因突变成高智商的机会也就小于欧亚人。直到今天,爱斯基摩人的总人口也只有5.5万人。

  5. I don’t get these people that hate getting called chinese. I am from Hong Kong. AND I have never MET a single one that didn’t call themselves chinese. Sure they don’t like some stuff from 大陸, such as simplified writing and the beijing language or so-called Mandarin. I don’t like these either, but to get rid of your chinese identity for a british one is disgusting. Is being colonized by a foreign people a source of pride? I think not, and those that are have what plato call a a natural slave mentality and I will not tolerate it. I am a proud HKer, and no foreign occupation is to be excused. Sure, we HAVE to protect the southern chinese dialects which are, again, more conservative and TRADITIONAL than the fake chinese beijing putonghua. And I think that is one cause to be angry about, but to swear your loyalty to the British Empire is disgusting. You don’t even have to be loyal to the PRC (I’m not. Fuck Mao and his ungrateful ilk) to BE called CHINESE. Chinese just means 華人, 漢人, 唐人, etc… which if you go to any chinatown, you’d know that we are. To be called anything else is not only rude, but it only deceives yourself. Does anyone else really think that you’re a brit? The answer is no, they’d see a foreign group groveling and kowtowing to become a westerner. If that’s what you are, then that’s fine with me. In fact, I encourage you not only to leave Hong Kong, but to leave East Asia. In fact, please marry a non-chinese person, and never ever speak about your chinese heritage. I encourage you to never ever return to the middle kingdom, and never let your progeny marry into the chinese gene pool ever again. You can leave if you want.

    • Maybe you can’t read ….

      Hong Kong people said “I am from Hong Kong” not “I am from Britain”. Could you not tell the difference?
      Let me spell it out for you
      H-O-N-G space K-O-N-G, 8 letters, not B-R-I-T-A-I-N, 7 letters. I know it’s very hard for you, but it’s DIFFERENT.

      If you’ve never met anyone from Hong Kong that didn’t called themselves Chinese, there is simply no way you are a HKer. Otherwise you’ve probably not been in HK for many years.

      If (according to you) people who thinks this way should leave Hong Kong, you are no different from the Nazis getting rid of the Jews in WWII. The Jews don’t think they are German while living in Germany either. What do you think you are? Telling people to leave where they called home since childhood. Hitler? Stalin?

      We have the Chinese culture in us, that DOES NOT make us CHINESE. Look at Canada, USA, Australia & New Zealand, they are using ENGLISH up to this very date as their language, some even had the Queen and the Union Jack on their flags. You don’t find the Brits telling everyone they meet that Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders & Americans that they are British.

      But the Chinese love telling everyone who had Chinese culture that they are Chinese. Why, because they had a terrible reputation internationally. When they see people in HK, Taiwan, Malaysian (25% Chinese) & Singapore doing well on the international platform, they got jealous and wanted people to dislike them as well. Chinese are sick.

      —————-

      btw study your history

      Hong Kong is ceded to British from Imperial Qing (1644-1912)
      Hong Kong, since 1842, 171 yr old
      Republic of China (Taiwan), since 1912, 100 yr old
      Soviet Union Stalin’s Bastard son (aka China), 63 yr old
      China, had ZERO grounds to govern Hong Kong from British, she is a Soviet Kidnapper

      • Chinese does not MEAN you have to be from PRC. It’s not about the fucking government, you irrational pig. It’s about being ethnically chinese, are you so desperate to be something you’re not? From your message, we can see you are one of those that waves the british flags by saying (Oh look, Hong Kong was ceded, therefore we’re british). It’s like saying that since we were conquered by Mongolians, that we are now Mongolians. It’s preposterous. And comparing me to the Nazis is not only stupid, it’s irrelevant with absolutely no connection at all. What am I holocausting? Nothing. You’re so desperate from a cheap shot that idiots like you will always pull out the Hitler card for something completely unrelated. I can’t believe you fulfilled Godwin’s law in your first bloody reply.

        I am chinese, NOT from People’s Republic of China. Did you read what I previously wrote at all?
        And yes, I have been in Hong Kong. I was born in Hong Kong, my parents are HKers, my friends are HKers, and I only recently left it 1 year ago. And yes, I still haven’t met a single HKer that doesn’t say “I am chinese” when asked in english. If I ask what I am? They’ll say “You’re Chinese” despite being HKer and speaking not a single lick of shitty mandarin. They may answer I am HKer in cantonese, but do you know what they also say just as frequently? You know what they say? “華人, 唐人, etc”. That’s chinese as in ethnically chinese.
        Like every single HKer, we still have relatives in the mainland, and each time we go to our family ancestral home. It reminds us of the family history. It reminds us of what we are, what we went through. From the end of Ming to the beginning of Qing was an era of covert struggle. Our family sought out every mean to undermine the Qing. Why? Because they were foreign invaders. It’s one thing to live under an incompetent government like the end of Ming, but it’s another to live under humiliating foreign occupation as a 2nd class citizen. The Qing lasted only because of the introduced hardy crops brought about by the columbia american exchange. My family was one of the first to revolt openly when given the chance.
        If you stayed British, you would always be a 2nd class citizen. You would always be a colonized people. My family only went to HK/Taiwan as a refuge the increasing political disadvantage due to the communist threat. We are the last ones to defend the communist bastards. But that does not make us non-chinese.

        If you don’t like the gov, I encourage you to just support Taiwan or something. Or yell “Hong Kong does not belong to PRC”, but never fucking wave a british flag like many of you do in all your riots. It disgusts me, those people can wave it in Britain. However, even the Irish/scottish have/had revolts/independent movement from it. Why? Because even if they were conquered the British aka UK, they still recognized that they were Irish, not brits. Even the anglo-saxons still recognize Norman descendants. You can save your “grass is greener over the fence” somewhere else.

      • don’t mind the dickhead replied your comment. he is dumb and ignorant. you are making every sense of your opinion, I hope there are more Hkers like you. I live in Britain and I’m from mainland. I’m so sick of those white washed Chinese who totally forget their root. I’m truly appreciate your wisdom which lots of hkers don’t have. They think they are superior than ppl from mainland, and this just make themselves a joke. those ppl can kiss British ass for good.

  6. Look, I agree with some things you say in the article, but the fact that everyone, including you (no offence) keeps saying that HK people hate the Mainland only when the economy is not doing well and that we only say we’re HK people to maintain our ‘status’ and ‘style’. I find that offensive. I call myself a Hongkonger for a reason-I was born in Hong Kong, have been to the Mainland and hated it. And you know what? I felt like I was in a different country. And I pretty much was. Everything was different. They drove on a different side of the car and the road, they spoke a similar language that I didn’t understand, the food was different, the road signs were in Simplified Chinese-everything. I have to say my ethnicity is Chinese when I do forms and stuff-but I always feel wrong while doing it, like I’m telling a lie or bending the truth. I don’t just hate the Mainland because most are rude. I pretty much hate them because of a personal family reason. So please, don’t say all of the people in Hong Kong like being called Hongkongers just because of status. It’s not true for anyone I know.

    (If it sounds offensive it’s just because I’m passionate about this lol sorry. And my username is because I have a media critic blog, not because I like criticizing. :) )

    • If you point out you’re not agreed with what I say with your reasons, that’s not offensive. Offensive people are those who talk ill off others without having a real opinion. Sorry to know about your experience in China.

      • So you’re saying I’m talking ill of you without a real opinion, to make that clear?

        How am I doing that. I’m saying I find it offensive you’re generalizing Hong Kong people, and you think that’s offensive? I didn’t insult you. I had an opinion. Look, if you find me offensive, I’m sorry, but I don’t think I was.

      • What I meant was I didn’t think your first comment was offensive, and I was explaining what would make me feel offensive and your comment wasn’t fall in that case because you did give your reasons as to why you hate mainland and so my article doesn’t reflect your opinion … I shall improve my English. Lol

      • Okay, that clears things up. Phew! No your English was perfect it’s just because I’m tired and I couldn’t read properly. lol. :)

        Nice blog by the way.

  7. I always find it funny when some clueless overseas chinese and chinese insult Hong Kong people like “British imperialist slave” when most of them are actually living or desperately trying to make their child study in British commonwealth or America.

    Just because you feel you are now facing racism from some white classmates and colleagues doesn’t make you know more about Taiwan or Hong Kong people, although I understand it would probably drive you to go nuts or pro-peking nationalist. And one fact about Hong Kong, it’s a multicultural melting pot, tens of thousand of South Asian and SE Asian are Hong Kong people who adopt Hong Kong values. If you think being ethnically chinese has anything to do with being Hong Kong people, you are just as racist as neo-racist badmouthing asian.

    • I think it’s rather hilarious that you didn’t read my post at all judging by your response.
      I daresay it’s quite representative of your kinds of people.
      If you bothered to read any parts of my post, you will clearly see most of it is dedicated to deconstructing chinese as a nationality, but as an ethnicity. I also said that if you didn’t like Pekin, you can support whatever other chinese entities you so desire. I do not care either way. Your ignorance of my post is astounding.
      And yes, Hong Kong is slaving away to be a cheaper carbon copy of the West. I am fully aware of that, but so is China – and pretty much the whole of East Asia is slaving away at its masters’ cock, just as much as they slaved away at the Manchus’ cock. My family was just an irregularity in an era that is the cesspool of groveling kowtowing bastards that served its foreign conquistadors called the “Qing Dynasty”. I doubt that’ll change either way.
      Frankly, it’s also amazing that they misunderstand that the West of today is not the West of the yesteryears, which was worth emulating in the past. The present cultural entity of the “West” is a erosive factor for the west itself. But I digress, East Asians will always try to reach the superior social status of the west in any way they can. I can not change that, you can not change that and it will probably never change until we are a grey and brown cesspool of “multicultural” monolithic(yes, monolithic) of festering decadence.

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